She Tried it All & Feared Nothing Would Change

Ep: 183

Does it feel like you’ve tried everything to change your career situation, but nothing is yielding the results you’re hoping to see?

Has the fear that maybe nothing else will work crept into your mind?

If you’re trying to find the answers on your own, the truth is that you may never actually see the changes you’re hoping for. 

It takes someone who’s been exactly where you are, someone who has experienced real transformation, in order to really understand the changes that need to happen. This is why career coaching with a mentor by your side yields real results.

Today on The Bridge to Fulfillment, Blake welcomes Kaytee to the show. Her decision to invest in herself has transformed her confidence and given her clarity about what’s important in her life, helping her align her values with her career choices.

In this episode, you’ll learn how to overcome the hurdles that might be preventing you from investing in yourself and your career. For Kaytee, overcoming her fears and finally taking the leap connected her with a mentor who really understood her unique gifts. Looking back now, she says it has turned out to be the best decision she could have made. She shares how breaking down the steps of the transition process was confidence boosting and fueled the momentum for change.

If you’re curious about how career coaching for women can help you, then this episode will answer your questions and help you push past your fears.

You don’t have to keep struggling and hoping for change. There are people who have been where you are and they are proof positive that the change you seek is possible. 


What You’ll Learn:

  • Continuing to question your career all the way up the ladder (2:52)
  • The underlying message behind your job dissatisfaction (5:58)
  • What Kaytee has learned about change since starting the program (10:12)
  • How she regained confidence and let go of her fear of change (17:48)
  • Learning how to confidently build and leverage your network (25:57)


Favorite Quotes:

  1. I’ve never done anything really selfishly, truly for my well-being. I’m really investing in the time, investing in it financially. And, it’s turned out to be one of the greatest things that I’ve done for myself in a really long time. -Kaytee
  2. Nothing’s wrong with you, and you’re not broken. These feelings are signs and symptoms that your life is misaligned with your values or your natural way of working. And it’s actually a call to level up in your life. -Blake
  3. Almost every time I’ve had a huge transformation, it was because of a mentor. I sought their advice and their guidance, and they encouraged me to do something I wouldn’t have done on my own and that encouragement then led to amazing benefits. -Blake
  4. I think a lot of women don’t think that you can have it all, whether they deserve it, whether it’s possible, whether it’s selfish, or whether you’re going to take away from your family. Whatever those fears are, I really wish I would have known that having both is possible. -Kaytee
  5. Every day, we are acting against our value system going to jobs where we feel like we have to sacrifice things we don’t want to sacrifice.-Blake


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Kaytee 0:03 I really loved how deep and how authentic the program was to getting to the core of the issue. Because again, I thought I knew what the issue was before I started. And once I got on the program, it was totally different. And then the first six weeks, I thought I knew what the issue was. And then I got to the second month, and it became different than like peeling back all of the 15 years of layers of this narrative that I had made about myself and my job and my life, you really helped peel that back to get to the core of it. What I want women to know is that when you get to the core of it, it’s not that scary. It removed a lot of the fear. It didn’t seem so traumatic. And so like, I’ll never conquer this, it seemed like okay, yeah, that’s a problem that I can solve.

Blake Schofield 1:00 Hi, I’m Blake Schofield, founder and CEO of The Bridge to Fulfillment, mom to three, USA Today top 10 professional coach, and former corporate executive who got tired of sacrificing my life for a comfortable paycheck. My mission is to expand women’s perspectives and empower them to achieve greater impact at home and work without sacrifice. This is the Bridge to Fulfillment. Hello, and welcome to another episode of the bridge to the filament. Today, I’m super excited to have my client Kaytee share her personal journey through the bridge to fulfillment and how she went from a place of feeling really trapped and stuck in a corporate job unsure of really how to use her skills to find the right place. And having tried all of the things solve it on her own, to a place where she’s loving the job search process. She’s connecting and building wonderful networking relationships, and she has the confidence to really go after what she wants. So with that said, Good morning, Miss Kaytee. Welcome. And thank you for joining me today. Oh, thank you, Blake, good to talk to you. All right, lady. So I always like to start with helping the audience understand a little bit about you, who you are and what was going on in your life when we connect it. So I’ll kick it back to you to have you get started and just share with us a little bit about yourself.

Kaytee 2:26 I started in musical theater. It’s what I went to college for. I was always a really creative kid. And I moved to New York and I tried to be a Broadway star. And I realized I liked health care and steady paycheck. And so you know, I kind of fell into retail and kind of fell in love with the business of retail. And my whole career since then has been in retail. I’ve worked for some pretty large companies. I realized early on that I wanted to move my way up that ladder, the titles at the beginning were really important for me. And what I found was that I would get into a job and I would work really hard. And I would have this feeling of what am I doing? Do I like what I’m doing? What’s wrong with me? Why am I questioning this thing that I’ve wanted for the past couple of years was so important. I work so hard. And now it’s hard for me to get up in the morning and go to my job I was looking at how do I help myself and I tried helping myself, I tried to talk myself out of that feeling. Oh, Kaytee, this is just it will pass. It’s the job. It’s where you’re working. So when I would find a new company, and when I would feel that way, the same. So you know, I started to feel there was something wrong with me. It was me, I would never be happy in the job no matter what. And so I just had to like resign myself to that unhappiness. I came across the website, and I connected with you on LinkedIn. And you said something really powerful to me. You said, When was the last time you invested in yourself? And that was like, I don’t know, maybe never. I’ve never done anything really selfishly for my truly for my well being truly for how do I want to spend the next 2530 years in my career. I’m really investing in the time, you know, investing it financially. And it’s turned out to be one of the greatest things that I’ve done for myself in a really long time.

Blake Schofield 4:24 Thank you for sharing that I almost feel like the way you just shared what your journey was you literally could have just copied and pasted me in. That was my exact journey this roller coaster of going after and getting promoted and having this brief I say brief for me it was usually about six six to on a long end nine months where I was like fulfilled energized, excited, and then it would wear off and then I would begin to go down that slope of like, oh God, here we are again. I don’t really want to come to work. I’m bored. I’m not challenged anymore. That to me. There’s almost nothing worse than that. Yo Go because to your point, you begin to feel like I’m just broken. I’m just broken, and I’m never going to be happy. And maybe I’m just a really selfish person. Maybe I’m just, my expectations are too high. And gosh, I had friend after friend and family member after a family member who was less driven than me basically say, I just don’t understand why you can’t be happy. You have all of these things, why can’t you just be happier? Why can’t you just take a hobby? Or why can’t you just not worry about work. And after a while, you start internalizing every bit of that, that something’s broken. And you and I think that’s part of why I was stuck so long, because I like you, I read all the books, I went and did the free work worksheets. I had conversations with people, I did a ton of soul searching. And despite all of the tactical advice, could not figure out what was wrong or what what I was really struggling with. So I really appreciate you sharing that because it just brings me back right back to exactly what my circumstances are. And I think what my heart is, is to help women understand if you’re feeling that way, nothing’s wrong with you, and you’re not broken, right? These are signs and symptoms that your life is misaligned with your values or your natural way of working. And it’s actually a call to level up in your life. And often we don’t know that. And I’m reminded of that, because this past weekend, I went to this amazing experience events with one of my mentors who invited me to come to this event, Kaytee, and I originally was like, you know, all the excuses, oh, my kids are going back to school, I would have just traveled just to gotten back two weeks before, I’ve already been to one of these events. I’m gonna let somebody else go, I have a great trajectory. I don’t really think I need that right now. And he actually pulled me aside and had a conversation. And he said, I really would like for you to come. And there were only eight people coming to this thing. And so I’m like, Okay, I think about it, I went home to my husband and told them and he’s like, why are you not listening to him? Like, there must be a reason that he’s asking you, there’s only eight spots, and he easily could fill up this event. So it’s not really about like, he’s not trying to sell you, you know what I mean? Like he really believes you should be there. And I went back and asked him, Why do you think I should come? What do you see that I don’t see. And after having come off of that events, it was a two day event, I came home a different person on Sunday than I was on Thursday in ways that are almost inexplicable to share. I have said over and over again, when my husband asked like, how was the event? And I said, it was so good, I can’t even put it into words. Like I wish I could bottle up what that experience was like and do it to every single person. It was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. And what it reminded me of is the power of foresight. And that most of the time I actually wrote this down yesterday. Transformational shifts are rarely seen beforehand. Rarely, when we are in a place where we’re ready to level up or when something’s ready to happen to us. Rarely do we actually know that we don’t see it for ourselves, which is why it’s so important to have mentors and guides and experts to help us see it because he had a power of foresight that I didn’t, he could see that I was on the cusp of something significant. And I think hearing you talk about investing in yourself how you had not done that before is kind of the perfect foray to kind of talk about this, because you probably felt completely lost and stuck just like I did. And you had no idea that you were so close. You just needed right the right investment in the right circumstances, the right information to allow you to really come through that trajectory. And I just share that because for me, it was so powerful to realize that I had no idea this last weekend was going to happen. But my mentor did. He saw it and I couldn’t. And sometimes I hear from women who come in are thinking about coming in to talk to me. And actually I talked to a woman yesterday that said, I almost reached out to you nine months ago. But I thought I needed to just keep doing this stuff on my own. And she ended up transitioning industries into a new job. Eight months later, she’s now laid off from that job. And she went through all of that just to come back. And this happens all of the time. I hear from women that are like I almost reached out to you. But then I just decided to do it on my own. And then they end up coming back to me anyway, eight to 12 months later, right? But having gone through this whole process exhausted themselves time, energy, etc. Because we don’t have the power of foresight. And so no, no, I just felt like I need to share this message today because somebody is listening who believes that they just need to figure it out on their own or feels like they’re stuck. And they don’t realize they may be very much just right around the corner from that transformation, because we cannot see it ourselves. And I just want to encourage you right to reach out and get that support. Because I can see almost every time I’ve had huge transformation, it was because a mentor someone further along for me in the path. I asked them I sought their advice and their guidance, and they encouraged me to do something I wouldn’t have done on my own and that encouragement then led to amazing benefits. So with that said, you share that I had shared something about when was the last time you invested in yourself and that sort of clicked something for you. Now that you’ve invested in yourself and you seeing the benefits. What do you wish that you had known before you had done that, like, if you think back to what your mindset was and what you were struggling with, and how you thought about it, what’s different now that you wish you would have known,

Kaytee 10:12 You know, there was like this sense of this will never change. And I wish I knew that there was a way to change, you know, I think, living in that that period where you just have to resign yourself to this is your life. It’s so funny, I was kind of waffling about joining the program. And so I was talking to some of my friends. And you know, one of my women colleagues said, she goes, Well, you just have to resign, you can’t have both. You can’t have a fulfilling career. And, you know, have a work life balance sheet. And that made me so it was probably the thing that pushed me because that was like the saddest statement I’ve ever heard, like, what she truly felt that way. She was like, I come to work, I’m miserable. But it allows me to do the things I love outside and that she goes, you just, that’s just the way it is. And I thought that can’t be I have 25 more years to go, I can get live like that. So I think a lot of women don’t think that you can have all of that, whether they deserve it, whether it’s possible, whether it’s selfish, whether you’re going to take away from your family, or whatever those fears are really wish I would have known that having both is possible. And it’s not a huge ask. It’s just how it should be.

Blake Schofield 11:24 Thank you for sharing that it breaks my heart that there are so many women that believe it’s not possible. And this for me is why I see so much toxicity sometimes in corporate America, especially. And I don’t mean this in a rude way for those of you listening, but especially for women inside corporate America, because we are bitter and we are angry. And every day we are acting against our value system going to jobs where we feel like we have to sacrifice things we don’t want to sacrifice. And it bleeds into every part of the work environment. And I saw that, and unfortunately, I was part of that. Because I felt that way for so many years. And what I think is really hard is that we don’t always understand that we have to be very careful about who we seek counsel and guidance from. So I love hearing you say that you went and you reached out to friends and colleagues, because you were debating Why do I love hearing that because I think a lot of women do that. And what happens is that’s the very thing that gets them stuck. Because they reach out to people that have the same belief systems, values and experiences they have. And then they expect that person is going to validate and tell them to go do something different. But they’re not. Because they also haven’t solved the problem that you’ve solved. And so I think this is a wonderful sort of tidbit. And I hope busy guys listening, catch this, right? If you are struggling with something in your life, and you’re looking to make a change, the only person you should listen to is the person who’s already accomplished what you want to accomplish. Because otherwise, all you’re doing is creating self sabotage. You’re creating all of the stress and anxiety with somebody telling you exactly what you think. And then what that does, is that furthers that belief system that I’m trapped, I’m stuck, I’m unhappy, something’s wrong with me, I’m broken, when in fact, it’s not true. It’s just you’re talking to someone who hasn’t solved the problem yet. Or they believe they’re stuck. And so they’re not even searching for something different. So I love hearing you say that you learned through this journey that that woman was wrong. Right. That’s a huge part of why I continue to put out these success stories is I believe that we need models. We need models to see other people like us who have achieved what we want to achieve. So that we can say it is possible if it’s possible for her it’s possible for me. So you went through the process you were debating about should you join the program, you wind up talking to this woman who basically says, Listen, you can’t have it all something about that incited anger in you and said, I’m going to show her I want to find a better way. I love it. Sometimes that’s what we need to get the kick in the butt to take action. Is that it? Or is there anything else you had to kind of leap through from a mindset standpoint or thinking through before you decided, yes, I’m going to move forward and I’m going to join this and I’m going to make a change in my life.

Kaytee 14:06 Yeah, I mean, am I worth it? Is it going to be worth it? I love talking to myself. It’s something I’ve done my whole life. My mom would come in and I would be like telling myself talking myself up in the morning when I was like six years old. So I have these like conversations with myself about saying a fact like Kaytee I don’t think this is worth it. And then I’ll go Well Kaytee, why are you saying that? And I’ll go well, maybe I’m not worth it. And so I I had to talk myself through actually to say like you are worth it. This is something that’s important. Your career is a huge part of your life. It’s a huge part of how you feel valued and how you feel fulfilled. And it’s important that you invest in that. I think that was another main thing from the woman colleague and then talking myself up to say this is this is a good thing for you. Even if you get 5% better. And I literally say this out loud. Even if you get 5% better, it’d be worth it.

Blake Schofield 15:07 I love that. Yeah, one of the things I think can become really common when we get to the situation of unknown. And I’ve said this on the podcast quite a bit, Virginia City years, quote, most people prefer the certainty of mystery to the mystery of uncertainty. When we’re at that place where we’re staring at the barrel of uncertainty, one of the biggest things that I see happen is we go into black and white thinking, I do this and I get like, absolutely everything in the whole world, or I get nothing. And I hear that all the time for women, what if I do this and nothing happens, but if I invest in myself, and then I’m still in the same exact spot, and I think there’s a lot of fear about the guilt of if I invest in something and nothing happens. I have a very clear perspective on that. But I’d be interested to hear what’s your perspective? And was that part of what went through your mind to?

Kaytee 15:56 Oh, I think 100% Yeah, I think it goes back to oh, I’ve tried everything. So if I’ve tried everything, then nothing else will work. And I kind of went into the program with a little bit of that wall where, you know, I’ve been doing this for 15 years, I’ve tried everything, I’ve gone to therapy, I’ve you know, had a resume writer, I’ve had someone optimize my LinkedIn, that didn’t work, I had this list in my brain of all the things that can help me and I tried all of them, and it wasn’t going to work. And so I really had to push myself to say, you need to at least move forward. And I really saw the program and how it was structured. And the support that you offered was so tailored to everybody. Again, if I got 5% better, it would be all worth it. It really would the day I started and looked at how it was all set up. I knew I knew it was gonna it was gonna be good.

Blake Schofield 16:48 I love that. Thank you. Yeah, I often say to women who even what you said earlier was another black and white, another black and white statement. I’ve done all this. So nothing else is going to work. Because I just it’s an interesting thing, I now have to understand this, I realized I spent most of my life in black and white thinking when the reality is usually something is in the gray. Like there are wonderful benefits, maybe you’ll get you never anticipated, but it’s highly unlikely it’s going to be either extreme. So I often say to women who have that fear of what if I do this, and it doesn’t work for me. If I do this, I’m still in the same exact spot is literally that’s impossible. Unless you do not do the program at all, like, oh, I invest and I never show up, it would be impossible to be the same person. What are your thoughts about that? Kaytee having gone through the program. Do you see that any differently? And what would be your perspective of somebody who’s maybe wondering that for themselves?

Kaytee 17:39 Yeah, again, you’re right. Unless you don’t open up any document, go to any calls? Yes, you will never change. But I saw change immediately. Within the first few weeks, you know, I started to get more confident I started to feel better about where I was in my personal life and my career, you know, I really leaned into using the tools. As soon as I started, a lot of that fear melted away, it really did the way you have it structured. The progression, I think it helps women take that a little more in tiny increments, which is something we need to do. It’s not all or nothing, you can make tiny little wins. And when they build up, you look back and you’re like, Wow, that was a huge change. Even though I was going through it, it felt tiny. When you look back, you’re like I’m really far from where I was. So I think that how the program is structured is is really intuitive to that kind of breaking that black and white feeling away.

Blake Schofield 18:40 Hmm, thank you. I love hearing you say that. So let’s talk about this. So you alright, so you decided, Okay, I’m gonna join us. I’m gonna get started. Can you share a little bit about what your journey was like? And maybe what was what you expected? And what was gonna be unexpected that you got through the journey?

Kaytee 18:55 Yeah, you know, I really loved how deep you I’m gonna say force that sounds like a bad term, but that, you know, how deep you you force women to question, you know, almost every aspect of their personal and career life. And it’s done in a warm way. It’s not done in a What’s bad about uA. And I think one thing that surprised me is I would do some of the activities or the surveys, and I would do them and think they were fine. And you would send me an email or we would talk and you would go, well, is that really how you’re feeling? And I would go back and I would, you know, go even more layers down. And that’s what I really loved. I really loved how deep and how authentic the program was to getting to the core of the issue because again, I thought I knew what the issue was before I started and once I got on the program, it was totally different. And then the first six weeks I thought I knew what the issue was and then I got to the second month and it became different than like peeling back all of the 15 years of layers. I have this narrative that I had made about myself and my job and my life, you really helped peel that back to get to the core of it. What I want women to know is that when you get to the core of it, it’s not that scary. It removed a lot of the fear. It didn’t seem so traumatic. And so like, I’ll never conquer this, it seemed like, okay, yeah, that’s a problem that I can solve. I think I can have tools to make myself feel better at my current job to make myself feel more confident in interviews, it didn’t seem so daunting. And I realized that the stress at the beginning, really curved down towards the end. And like I said, I said, one of the biggest things I think I got out of it was feeling more confident my current job, which you don’t think that’s going to be part of the outcome, right? You’re like, Oh, I hate this job. By the time I’m done with this, I’m really gonna hate it. And but I started to feel more confident where I was, because I knew that I had the tools to change. And I think that’s really huge for women to feel you have the tools to change, they are out there. And you can do it on your own time. And it doesn’t have to be fear based. You can choose a company that you love, you don’t have to take the first one who says, Okay, I guess I’ll take you, but I’m not going to pay you as much as you want. And you can have all these benefits. Like you can say, No, I’m worth more than that. And I know, I’ll get more than that. And I think that was a huge journey for me from the beginning.

Blake Schofield 21:26 I love that. Yeah, one of the unexpected benefits I consistently hear from women is, oh, it’s made my current job so much better. I didn’t come here for that reason. But it’s made my current job so much better. And I think that’s for a couple of reasons. When we are absolutely miserable in our jobs, we feel trapped. And we feel like we have no control. And a big part of what’s important in this journey is to get out of that place. And to get to a place where you’re making decisions strategically, and based on what’s best for you. Because anytime you’re making decisions from a valley where you feel trapped and miserable, you’re never going to make the right decision. And so part of this process is to enable you to have the time and space. But here’s what I would say to anybody listening right now, who believes it’s just the toxic boss toxic environment, it’s never gonna get better is that how often do I have all of these women, one after the other after the other, go through the same circumstances and then get to a place where they’re like, hey, this job’s not too bad. It’s not my dream job. It’s not where I want to be forever. But I can stay here long enough to get the right one. Why is that? Right? I often say it’s because we are also part of the problem or part of the solution, right. And so it is possible to actually improve where you are. Now I like to say it’s almost as if you’re sitting on the train tracks and you’ve been sitting on it so long, you think that there’s no train that runs on the train track. And then as you get to that place in your career, we’re so miserable, all of a sudden, you see the train barreling down at you, right, you realize, Oh, crud, I’m in trouble, I gotta jump off, I gotta find an alternative route. I gotta figure out like another nother track to jump on. But what we do in the beginning of this program is almost like it takes the train going from 100 miles an hour down to about 20. And it gives you the runway to be able to be more strategic and thoughtful. Can you share a little bit Kaytee, you said it gave me more confidence help you feel better in your current job? How did that manifest? Or how did that show up? Like, what was happening on a day to day basis or in the way that you were interacting or doing things where there was that shift that somebody would noticeably be able to see?

Kaytee 23:23 Yeah, I think before I was kind of disengaged from the team, I had the Sunday scaries to the point where like I dreamed about, like, do I have enough money just to not show up? I really was at that point, it felt like there was no end I was applying to every job jobs. I look back now. Like, it would have been worse if I would have taken those jobs. But I just wanted out. And that was the pattern that I had been in before. And now I like I’m more engaged with the team. I’m more confident in meetings, I understand my value, I understand what I’m good at what I bring to the company. I think before I was constantly feeling I had to prove myself. And now I’m like, This is who I am. I’m really good at my job. I’m a really good leader. And I bring that energy now to I mean, even like my boss and some of people my colleagues have said like you just You seem different. And so I really think that’s helped me to be more selective. What I’m looking for outside of this job, I got an interview with a pretty one of the biggest companies in the world. Five years ago, Kaytee would have taken that the prestige of having that on my resume would have been more than it being another toxic environment, no work life balance, probably detrimental to my mental and physical health. I never would have had the strength to say you know what, that’s not for me. It really isn’t. I’m really thankful that I’ve been able to get to that point because I think it’s going to save me a lot of misery down the road. You know, like us I understand that some people wait nine months to come to you when they first see you or talk to you. I can’t imagine wasting another nine months like that feels like eternity the way I was feeling.

Blake Schofield 25:12 One of my favorite parts of your journey was the embracing of the networking process. And this is always an interesting thing. I would say most of the women that come in this program, don’t really like networking, don’t feel good at it feel super awkward at it. And yet, to me, it’s one of the most fun things when I see that entirely switch over. Because I believe that networking is job security. If you have a level of confidence and a level of ability to do it, you will never be without a job, you’ll never be reliant on a particular company reliant on a particular boss, because you will know how to create your own momentum. You’ll know how to open your own doors. Can you share a little bit about what that journey was like for you? What did you think about networking coming in? What did you experience or done before? And then how has that shifted for you? Yeah,

Kaytee 25:57 I was one of those who thought networking was code for bothering people. You know, it was a bother like, they were going to think, oh, gosh, she wants a job. Or she wants free career advice. And so I had a really hard time with it. But when we got to that point, and you really talk through, if you come from it from a way of I want to learn from you, you’re doing what I want to do, and I want to get all the information about how you got there, why what was your thought process, and as soon as I came at it from that way, I mean, I’ve really I’ve had 100% success rate of reaching out to people, and I’m not exaggerating, I really have and I’ve reached out to people I’ve never spoken to before. They were like a connection of a connection. It’s just been fantastic. You know, and it’s been mostly women. And they have just been so kind and so generous with their time with their advice, with connecting me with other people. And the companies like I’ve connected with Pinterest, and Microsoft and Shopify and all these really big companies where I would have been so nervous and so embarrassed to reach out to someone there. Because I would think why would they want to talk to me? Why would they want to, you know, give some advice or help someone else in their career, and it’s been the exact opposite. People are really generous, they really want other women to succeed. I mean, I feel that honestly,

Blake Schofield 27:20 That’s amazing. And how has that shifted or changed your perspective is I think when we go from, I guess I would say this most of my career, the first part of my career, not the last five years, but the first 18, I think I was raised with a very old school mentality, my parents were like work is work, personal is personal, you must be professional XYZ. And so I had a lot of pride in my ability to solve my own problems and do things on my own. And today, I work very differently than that. And I think sometimes the networking process, it also sometimes shifts our perspective about that, because we start to see things differently, did it do anything for you in terms of shifting your perspective, or your level of competence? Or how you approach or think about teamwork, and asking for support, etc, in your career?

Kaytee 28:05 Oh, 100%. I think the program helped me with that. As well. I was one of those who didn’t like to ask for help. I didn’t want to be a burden on anybody. I didn’t want anyone to think I didn’t know what I was doing. I was one of those who would act like they knew and then go home and like have a full on panic attack. Because you’re like, you don’t know what’s going on. Like, why can’t you ask for help? And I think the networking has really helped with that. And to at the end of every networking call, I say, what how can I help you? If you see someone in your network that needs anything, any connection, a phone call? I said, please let me know. Because I definitely want it to be a two way street. And so I’ve actually had two people from the people I’ve networked, reach out to me to talk about career and, and and things like that. So it’s been a great experience. I mean, to some of the networking people have reached back out unsolicited a few weeks later to say, Hey, how are you doing? How was that interview? You know, like I heard there may be this job coming up? Is this something you’re interested in? I would have never thought that was possible before just trying to be authentic and honest about you know, what I was looking for. And networking, instead of it being like, please give me a job. People can smell that desperation. So it’s been transformative and how I look at that versus going online, putting a resume in and then praying that they call you back. That’s like such a tiny part of the job search very tiny.

Blake Schofield 29:34 Yeah, that’s what we say 80% of jobs are gotten through networking and 70 to 75% of them are never even posted. So what you just described this, I reach out, I built this relationship and I have people coming back to me to say how was your interview I have this particular job I think you might be interested in. That’s what I described as creating a flywheel right or a spiderweb of people that are championing for you. So you’re like double, triple or quadruple In your efforts without any work, because those people are doing it for you, because they understand fundamentally who you are, what your value is the right environment for you, and what impact will make inside an organization. It’s super powerful. And I think as women, most people don’t well, I say, men and women don’t know about this, but women are, I think, not taught this where some men are, it’s rarely, it’s very rare that I’ve seen women understand the power of this or have been taught these skills. And so I love hearing your description of it, because that’s exactly when you do it. What I say like, what’s the benefit of authentic networking and understanding the art and science of it, it is exactly what you’re saying. That’s when you see the traction, and then it takes so much weight off of you, right? Because now Kaytee, it doesn’t just have to be you. You’re not in this job search alone on this computer, trying to figure it out. But you have people who you are building trust and relationships with who you know, have your back. And so I don’t know, for me through this process, it feels like when you go through that, and you feel like okay, every day, I’m getting up, and I’m doing what I need to do in my job. And I’m I’m seeking the right thing. It’s like, I’m not alone, not alone in that journey. And there’s an added layer of just confidence and belief in the process. Because you know, it’s not just you, you’re getting these inclinations of people are out there working for you. And then the right thing will show up. Yep.

Kaytee 31:19 100% Yeah, 100%. And you find to that, it my reaching out to some of these women, you can feel that there, they were, like, thank you so much like, I never get to tell my story, or I’m so glad that you’re inspired by my journey. I never even thought of my journey as inspiring. It’s if you show up authentically, really wanting to learn and being excited about talking to someone else, it’s a confidence boost for them. And you just create that positive interaction after positive interaction. And like you said, the web is a really good, a really good way to look at it, because it does truly feel like that.

Blake Schofield 31:55 And here’s the wonderful thing, you’ll continue to build those relationships and three years, five years, 10 years from now, this skill that you’ve now built, this passion around is, is going to continue to build your reputation, your network, your leadership ability, because now you have removed the barrier from so many things. Now, it’s like I can go build a relationship with anybody. And I can create this positive experience. And that’s how your name gets put in a hat for different opportunities, how doors open, how things begin to expand for you. So I love it. Because like I said, it was so clear to me that you like fully embrace this. And you’re executing with, like such excellence. And I know that it’s not just about the networking in the interview process. But I know the second, third and fourth order consequences of what you’re doing that you will look back now a year, two years, three years from now. And you’ll realize how significant this skill has been in doing so many wonderful things for you, but also so many wonderful things for others, because you’re giving back to people in a way that helps them feel valued. And what a beautiful thing because I think sometimes things can get so busy in the corporate world, that we don’t take the time to appreciate and like really build authentic relationships with people. And that’s so needed. And so I love that you’re able to give that back to the lady, this has been such an amazing conversation. And unfortunately, our time is almost over. So I want to stop, I guess conclude by asking you, is there anything that I haven’t asked you yet that I should have, or anything that’s really just on your heart that you want to share?

Kaytee 33:27 You know, I think the hardest part of this journey was joining. Now that I look back, that really was the hardest part, everything else has been so eye opening. So wonderful, again, great connections, I’ve learned a ton about myself, my private life is better, my job is better. The hardest part is joining. And so you know, I really encourage women who are on the fence about it, to really have talked to themselves or have that conversation with themselves that they are worth it, that it is going to help you it really is and that you’re there to support them. And whatever that looks like. And however the amount and quantity and quality of that is because you tailor it to each woman so so wonderfully. So yeah, just I think make the leap because it it’s definitely worth it.

Blake Schofield 34:17 Thank you for sharing that you shared one more thing with me before we get started that you thought was important to share in it. It was really around what it takes to be successful in the program. Or maybe a better way to phrase it is what was the methodology you used to this process that enabled you to be successful,

Kaytee 34:35 I had to be open you had to be open to it open to digging deep open to listening to other women opening to doing some of the activities or programs when you didn’t really understand why you were doing them at the beginning. You know and that’s okay. Again, it’s that control you know, letting go of a little bit of that and just you know, this is gonna sound a little cheesy but just letting yourself feel that you know, go through the process that it’s going to unfold in a way that you aren’t going to understand at the beginning, but it’s going to be so worth it.

Blake Schofield 35:06 Wonderful. Thank you so much, Kaytee. And thank you, to those of you listening. This has been a really inspirational conversation, I had a feeling it would be. But there’s so much I think in the way that you are able to share so authentically your story and your journey and really connect it back in a way that I think there are probably a lot of people listening who can relate. And it’s that’s a gift. It’s a gift and an ability to do that, that probably connects all the way back to those early experiences, right? Your creativity, your storytelling. And often we don’t recognize those things about ourselves, because they’re just who we are. But I want to recognize it about you. And have you see that in yourself, what a beautiful storyteller you are, and how you’re really able to relate things in such a wonderful way that makes it simple and easy for people to feel connected to what you’re sharing. And so thank you for that. Thank you for the gift of the ability to be a part of this journey with you, and the ability to help share your voice and your story for others to inspire them. And I hope also to look back on this journey yourself and times to come up what an amazing transformation these last few months have been. That have I have zero doubt in my mind is just the very beginning of what you’re really going to be able to accomplish with all of this knowledge, skills and tools that you’re taking and continuing to move forward in your life in your career. So thanks again for listening. Until next time, have a great one. Thanks for joining me today. Rather than hope the grass will be greener identify what the right next step is. We can help you do just that. Get clarity on where you are in your journey to career fulfillment, where you’re headed, optimal paths to get there, and the right next step to take. Start your complimentary personalized career fulfillment plan at Again, you can get your personalized career fulfillment plan at Thanks again for joining and have a great week ahead!